Carol Platt Liebau: Shameful

Friday, September 15, 2006

Shameful

To its eternal shame, the Senate Armed Services Committee has rejected the President's plan for terrorist tribunals.

For a thorough explication of why the objections of John McCain, Lindsay Graham and John Warner's objections are completely meritless, Andrew McCarthy's piece is a must-read.

The fact is that McCain, Graham and Warner have done nothing to enhance the chances of our own troops' security should they be captured by Al Qaeda. Terrorists, unfortunately, have been amply demonstrated to lack the chivalrous impulse to reciprocate courtesies demonstrated to them under the Geneva Convention or in any other context. Rather, they've only provided more grounds for the enemies of America to harass its investigators and the people who are trying to keep us safe by launching specious "war crimes" allegations.

John McCain had better pray there's no terrorist attack on this country that could have been forestalled by interrogation of a terrorist captive using methods he has opposed. Otherwise, his presidential ambitions are completely dead (even assuming that he hasn't annoyed so many Republicans that he's done as it is).

19 Comments:

Blogger Cliff said...

John McCain just had his political head chopped off.

8:51 AM  
Blogger Josh said...

If I'm not mistaken, many of the detainees aren't captured on the battlefield by American troops, but, rather, are handed over by Afghan factions. This is a pretty big deal, because it means that the military isn't as sure that the men in its custody are terrorists as you and McCarthy make it out to be.

It is a given that Al Qaeda and the Islamists are scumbags who treat will treat their prisoners horribly. Why on earth is that justification for us to deny our prisoners rights?

Your willingness to sacrifice our values and give up our moral supperiority is frightening.

9:29 AM  
Blogger Cliff said...

No Josh, what concerns me
is an evil Islamic death cult that wants you and me DEAD!

The detainees at "Club Gitmo" can rot there!

9:39 AM  
Blogger Editor said...

Obviously Bush has been violating Genva Conventions otherwise he would not need to redefine it's terms.

Such a thug and a disgrace to this country.

10:33 AM  
Blogger Cliff said...

Tell us Editor (Dittohead),
What are the terms of the Geneva Conventions? Be specific. List them for us.
Let's see if you can.

10:43 AM  
Blogger wile e coyote said...

The Senate can be described as 100 people who think that can do a better job than the President.

In this case, I do not think the Administration, in particular the Defense Department, has earned the trust of the Senate when it comes to competent and accountable treatment of prisoners.

The three Senators leading this effort are puffed up blowhards, it is true, but they are also the people's representatives no less than the President. I think we need to let the legislative process work through these issues, which might seem simple in concept, but can be thorny in execution.

11:00 AM  
Blogger Cliff said...

Well Editor, (Dittohead)

We're waiting. Can you list
the specific terms of the Geneva Conventions?

11:10 AM  
Blogger Cliff said...

Anyone want to give it a try?

11:11 AM  
Blogger eLarson said...

If I'm not mistaken, many of the detainees aren't captured on the battlefield by American troops, but, rather, are handed over by Afghan factions.

Josh: What if you are mistaken?

11:53 AM  
Blogger Cliff said...

"If I'm not mistaken, many of the detainees aren't captured on the battlefield by American troops, but, rather, are handed over by Afghan factions."

And Josh's point would be...?

12:06 PM  
Blogger Cliff said...

Still waiting on Editor!

12:10 PM  
Blogger The Ayatollah said...

Sure, President Bush's plan for terrorist tribunals was stopped by a few GOP rats like John McCain, Lindsay Graham and John Warner. But remember, the entire Democratic Party was in on the side of Muslim terrorists.

2:39 PM  
Blogger Cliff said...

Editor said...
"Obviously Bush has been violating Genva Conventions otherwise he would not need to redefine it's terms.

Such a thug and a disgrace to this country."

10:33 AM


Editor, why won't you correct this piece of slander, and define the terms of the Geneva Conventins?

3:46 PM  
Blogger Josh said...

And Josh's point would be...?

That since we didn't capture them ourselves we cannot be absolutely sure that they are, in fact, terrorists? That, therefore, treating treating them like terrorists shouldn't be done until we are sure?

4:01 PM  
Blogger Cliff said...

Our military is the finest
in the world, very well trained and they know for sure who the terrorists are and how much information they can "extract" from them. I have no problem in trusting the judgement of our soldiers and Special Forces.

4:27 PM  
Blogger Cliff said...

Hey Josh, since I have your
attention, maybe you can answer my question. Can you define the terms of the Geneva Conventions, article 3? Editor is apparently too busy to correct his slanderous piece against the president. Maybe you can give us some clarity. Can you do that?

4:34 PM  
Blogger Cliff said...

Josh said, "therefore, treating treating them like terrorists shouldn't be done until we are sure"

No need to worry Josh, we treat our "detainees" very well, so well in fact that last week, when the Iraqi
government took over the prison (Abu Garab, sp) the inmates screamed and begged for that NOT to happen, I wonder why that was? But they shouldn't worry though, I hear that "Club Gitmo" is a very nice place, especially when you compare it to the prisons in their home countries.

4:45 PM  
Blogger Editor said...

Cliff,

Try learning to google.

6:25 PM  
Blogger Cliff said...

I'm not the one who dosen't know the truth, you are!

8:06 PM  

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