Carol Platt Liebau: Pearl Harbor, Circa 2005

Wednesday, December 07, 2005

Pearl Harbor, Circa 2005

Sharp commentary, courtesy of Sacred Cowburgers.


Blogger LQ said...

Great commentary, except the name of the boat. Kennedy, Dean and Kerry are wrong, but they are not traitors.

11:09 AM  
Blogger Mr. Twister said...

Looks like the Sacred Cowburgers forgot some people.

"Things aren't getting better; they're getting worse. The White House is completely disconnected from reality. It's like they're just making it up as they go along. The reality is that we're losing in Iraq."--Sen. Chuck Hagel R-Neb.

"After 1,700 deaths, over 12,000 wounded and $200 billion spent, we believe it is time to have this debate and this discussion on this resolution [to withdraw the troops]."--Rep. Walter Jones R-NC

"I don't think you can win it."--President Bush in response to Matt Lauer's question on whether we can win the war on terror.

7:18 PM  
Blogger Duke-Stir said...

(Thanks, LQ, for acknowledging that.)

The cartoon is dead on about the level of discourse in this country right now. We’re all just caricatures of the extremes of whatever party we belong to. If someone is against this war and strongly disagrees with the direction our country is headed, they are labeled unpatriotic. “You’re either with us, or you’re against us.”

I know it cuts the other way too, the caricature thing, but I really haven’t seen the patriotism of the Republicans being called into question as much. That may elicit a chortle from many who see their beliefs and the actions of our president as nothing but patriotic (and questioning the war and its genesis decidedly un-), but there are other ways of seeing things, and we “liberals” are every bit as dedicated to this country as they are.

And we were every bit as saddened and outraged on 9/11, the Pearl Harbor of our time. That’s why we were wholly behind the invasion of Afghanistan; we were eager to bring Bin Laden to justice. But a shadow policy was afoot – and had been for some time at that point – and while the iron of American anger was hot, it was going to be enacted. So it was done so in the most inept way, alienating our allies at the time we need them the most, for the actual war that began on 9/11.

If there were a bigger man in the Oval Office, he would have rallied the public and launched a national effort to fortify the defenses of the homeland -- improving ports, rail lines, chemical plants -- asking industry to do their part and Americans to make the financial investment. But no.

What distinguishes 9/11 from Pearl Harbor is the difference in the leadership that followed. History will show it.

8:01 PM  
Blogger Pete said...

Wrong-o, Dukey boy, as usual!

What distinguishes 9/11 from Pearl Harbor is unity of purpose. The realization that we are at war with a dangerous foe who must be defeated if we are to live in peace.

The fact is, that the "loyal opposition" and MSM today is traitorous in their misrepresentations of what is happening in Iraq. I have no problem with you believing the war is wrong. That can be done without giving "aid and comfort" to our enemy. The Democrats in the illustration, and several more like Murtha, Pelosi, Reid, etc. etc. etc. fall all over each other to get to a microphone to blast our efforts in the Middle East. The fact is, they hate Bush so much, they don't care that the enemy is encouraged to more assaults against their own people and our military men and women.

Get a grip on reality, Duke. Try to get over your hatred for Bush and Republicans and unite for the good of America! You sound like another whiny loser!

6:11 AM  
Blogger Duke-Stir said...

"What distinguishes 9/11 from Pearl Harbor is unity of purpose. The realization that we are at war with a dangerous foe who must be defeated if we are to live in peace."

That's right, unity of purpose. I am for pursuing the perpetrators of 9/11, just like everyone was committed to defeating Japan after Pearl Harbor. The difference is that we went off on a deadly boondoggle to fulfill the personal vendetta of one George Bush instead of pushing on into Tora Bora. Not unlike FDR deciding after Pearl Harbor to invade Malaysia to settle a grudge. 'Hey, they look Jappy enough. Let's do it.'

"I have no problem with you believing the war is wrong. That can be done without giving "aid and comfort" to our enemy."

Yeah, 'cause they're watching Fox to see if it's a good day to plant IED's. How ridiculous. What aids and comforts them much more, I assure you, is the knowledge that our troops are having to find sift through junkyards over there to find crap to weld onto their vehicles to protect them from IED's. Again, is this the country that rebuilt the Pacific fleet in an astonishingly short amount of time? Where's Georgie's will when it comes to providing our guys with the equipment they need? Why are families of National Guardsmen having to have bake sales to raise money for gear for them? Huh?

No, everyone hush, don't question our president, it endangers our troops. After all, he is a great American hero who knows what it's like to fight for his country in a faraway land, right?

You could use a dose of reality yourself, "Petey boy," by trying to get over your hatred of liberals and opening your eyes to a few realities as well.

7:13 AM  
Blogger Pete said...

My "hatred for liberals"is no match for your own hatred for anyone to the right of center! I'm nowhere near you, Duke! you win the hate issue hands down. I do, admittedly, get a little upset when you continually lie and distort reality to suit your agenda.

The left's smear of the right goes way back and is much more "mean spirited" than almost anyone on the right has been in rebuttal. I personally think that the reason is simply because you rely on emotionalism rather than facts. Your "feel-good" legislators are killing us! And the movement for political correctness will destroy the country if we can't call spades, "spades"! Terrorists are NOT insurgents or misguided militants, they are terrorists! They must be dealt with with the recognition that no matter what we do, they will continue to try to kill us. Talking, UN resolutions, money will not change that. We are free, they are not - they can't stand that. This is a no-brainer, Duke! Except to the left.

Let me share a quote I keep on my website which you will undoubedly disagree with because it was spoken by Ronald Reagan. It is, however, 100% on the money - ""If history teaches us anything, it teaches that simpleminded appeasement or wishful thinking about our adversaries is folly. It means the betrayal of our past, and the squandering of our freedom."

So gather with your bosom buddies Teddie, Hanoi John, John M, Nancy, Howard, the rest of the surrender monkeys, and stop the "simpleminded appeasement!"

Merry Christmas.

8:17 AM  
Blogger Mr. Twister said...

That's rich, Pete. You are quoting a President who sought to establish better diplomatic relations with Iraq at the same time that Saddam Hussein was gassing Kurds. Are you seriously trying to use the "let Saddam do whatever he wants" POTUS to claim the moral high road?

Where was the stand tall Dutch when he could have actually made a difference?

9:23 PM  
Blogger Pete said...

Your name fits, Twister.

The quote stands - it is correct and true according to history. That the man was human and made mistakes is also correct - I had a few issues with him myself. Over all, however, he was a far better President than most in recent memory. Certainly better than any of the Democrats!

7:34 AM  

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