Carol Platt Liebau: A Law Too "Ruff" for Jimmy

Friday, September 23, 2005

A Law Too "Ruff" for Jimmy

Toby of Wellington, New Zealand, meet Ritzy Meckler of St. Louis.

Not that I wouldn't trust Winston to cast a more intelligent vote than, say, your typical Air America listener . . .

But it does force one to wonder what Jimmy Carter finds so "obnoxious" (and of all people, Jimmy Carter should know "obnoxious")about Georgia's proposal to require photo ID in order to vote.

7 Comments:

Blogger Mr. Twister said...

Probably the fact that requiring photo identification disenfranchises primarily the socially and economically disadvantaged in the nation.

Of course you already knew that, didn't you Carol? If you were honest with yourself, you would also admit that disenfranchising poor voters is also the main reason the right wing is in favor of the proposal.

8:04 PM  
Blogger The Flomblog said...

Mr. Twister - The poor don't drive? In colorado, even if you don't drive a state ID costs about $5.00 -- assunimg that you're a valid resident of the US -- Hey valid resident - hmmmmm.

10:37 PM  
Blogger Poison Pero said...

Hey Twister, quit twisting the truth.

It takes an ID card to cash a check, but you think it's too much to ask to vote?

Even people in the lowest levels of society have easy access to get an ID.......How on Earth is this disenfranchising?

I'm sure there are plenty of DNC canvassers who'd be willing to drive the downtrodden to the local DMV........Heck, they'd probably even give them a few bucks, along with instructions to vote for any candidate with (D) behind their name.

This is such a pathetic arguement.......And you know it is.

But nothing less is expected from Mr. Twister.

Nice picture you have...I still don't know how you Democrats "Twist" into this position.
http://members.cox.net/jayc1832/Lib%20Rips/A%20Characteristic%20All%20Liberals%20Have.jpg

1:06 AM  
Blogger eLarson said...

Probably the fact that requiring photo identification disenfranchises primarily the socially and economically disadvantaged in the nation.

Sure it does. But then again it could prevent massive voter fraud which disenfranchises EVERYONE who votes only once.

Greater good, don'tcha know.

6:49 AM  
Blogger Mr. Twister said...

flomblob and poison,

With all due respect, both of you are idiots.

It seems like only a couple of weeks back that something called hurricane Katrina hit the Louisiana coast. Did you hear about it? Well it turns out that a sizable percentage of New Orleaneans, primarily the economically disadvantaged, didn't evacuate because they didn't have cars. Now, if they didn't have cars, why in the world would they have driver's licenses?

If you don't like anecdotal evidence, how about some empirical evidence?

A June 2005 study by the University of Wisconsin found that less than half (47 percent) of Milwaukee County African American adults and 43 percent of Hispanic adults have a valid drivers license compared to 85 percent of white adults outside Milwaukee. So yes, flomblog, although it lies outside of your limited middle class or better experience, a significantly enhanced percentage of the poor don't drive.

In its simplest form the Georgia Republicans are pushing a plan which they KNOW, a priori, will disporportionately disenfranchise minority voters. This is precisely why the Republican party and people like Poison Pero are in favor of it.

7:46 PM  
Blogger Mr. Twister said...

Elarson wrote, "Sure it does. But then again it could prevent massive voter fraud which disenfranchises EVERYONE who votes only once."

Thank you, elarson, for at least facing the issue directly. I agree that states have a duty to prevent voter fraud. Unfortunately for this claim, the Gerogia Secretary of State certified that she was unaware of even a single case of false identity voter fraud during her tenure. It is difficult to claim that no known cases equates with "massive voter fraud." I don't feel that states have the right to disenfranchise large segments of their population on the off chance that somebody, someday, might try to vote twice even though it hasn't happened yet.

If you are really interested, you can read more about this issue here.

8:19 PM  
Blogger Mr. Twister said...

One further thing for the logic-impaired Poison Pero...

I tell you what, I'll go 100 to 1 with you on the fraud issue. For every single documented case of voter fraud you can document from the 2004 election, I'll give 100 documented cases of Republican lead voter disenfranchisement.

Want to play a couple of rounds, or all you all hat and no horse?

8:32 PM  

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