Carol Platt Liebau: Born losers.

Tuesday, August 28, 2007

Born losers.

Fake-conservative Andrew Sullivan stand-in Hilary Bok on Iraq: “Grit and resolve would be appropriate only if success were possible, and it is not clear that it is.” Well, there you go. Thank God we weren't afflicted with such professional academics in 1777, 1862, and 1940: all years of distinctly unclear possibilities of success.

7 Comments:

Blogger Chepe Noyon said...

Mr. Trevino, you appear to be claiming that we should not rely upon reason and historical experience to guide our policies. I suggest that reason and historical experience, while subject to the frailties of the human intellect, remain a far better guide than wishful thinking.

12:57 AM  
Blogger Joshua Trevino said...

Hence my appeal to reason and historical experience. Yes.

11:40 AM  
Blogger Chepe Noyon said...

Very well, then, could you provide evidence that the strategic situations in 1777, 1862, and 1940 were as bleak as they are in Iraq?

12:01 PM  
Blogger Joshua Trevino said...

What's the charitable assumption here? Ignorance or disingenuousness?

5:14 PM  
Blogger Chepe Noyon said...

Mr. Trevino, I'm getting the impression that you have no interest in reasoned discussion; if this is correct, then I apologize for attempting to engage you in something that doesn't interest you. However, if you really do think that the strategic situations in 1777, 1862, and 1940 were really comparable to the strategic situation in Iraq in 2007, then I'd be interested in reading your analysis. The only one that comes close is 1777 -- and in that one, the roles were reversed! WE were the insurgency, and the British were the occupying army, and the insurgents won. That's pretty much what I'm expecting in Iraq. But if you have an analysis that runs counter to this thinking, then by all means, let's hear it!

10:06 PM  
Blogger Joshua Trevino said...

You're just not someone worth engaging with. Tedious and slow, looking to score process points: and failing. Eh.

11:21 AM  
Blogger Greg said...

Hmmmm ...

"Process Points"

Great term!

6:15 AM  

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