Carol Platt Liebau: A Moment of Truth

Monday, August 14, 2006

A Moment of Truth

President Bush's former speechwriter, Mike Gerson, has provided to Newsweek a must-read piece explaining why this isn't the time for "Lamontism" -- "the elevation of flinching to a foreign policy."

19 Comments:

Blogger Editor said...

Anyone really care what a former speech writer opines?

8:55 AM  
Blogger wile e coyote said...

Editor,

I doubt any of the bloggers on this page were even speech writers. Should anyone really care what anyone of us says?

The answer is, "It depends upon what we say and how well we support what we say with reasoned argument."

Virtually all you do is attack individuals with snide remarks. Is it because you have no ideas of your own, or because you are unable to counter someone else's ideas with better ones?

I differ quite widely with wrabkin. I care what he says because he backs it up with arguments. Even when -- especially when -- I don't agree with him, I learn from him, and he forces me to sharpen my own thinking.

What are you contributing to this blog that anyone should care about?

9:14 AM  
Blogger Editor said...

And what are you contributing oh great sage? By the way you are off topic and violating Carol's rules.

If others would also suggest Carol present some real news, instead of right-wing propagands, it might actually lead to some intelligent discourse.

9:52 AM  
Blogger dodger said...

This is the president speaking. I have been in consultation with editor, wrabkin and others. They counsel that I should not listen to right wing speech writers, rather I should call people names. I had not thought of that until now. Henceforth our foreign policy shall consist of calling other people that don't go along with us names. Gads, how come I didn't think of this before? It makes everything so easy. Yas, I have to decide who to ridicule, and what names to use, but hey, how hard can that be? editor, your president thanks you.

For starters, how about this? It's no longer Bush's War, its Kennedy's War.

Dam, this is going to be fun.

10:05 AM  
Blogger Editor said...

As I suggested, there is not much to discuss. An opinion of an opinion of another opinion.

Neither Coyote or Dodger had anything to comment on, on the topic.

So I'll state the obvious. In a democracy, Bush does not get to hide his failures behind a call of patriotism, nationalisn or the troops who are dying because of his incompetence. The republican did not reframe from discent when we had a democratic war president.

Once again, we see Bush as one who refuses to accept responsibility and accountablity for his failures.

12:29 PM  
Blogger eLarson said...

The [R]epublican[s] did not reframe [refrain?] from discent[dissent?] when we had a [D]emocratic war president.

That's cute. Which Democrat war president do you mean? Certainly not FDR. The Repubicans very much did keep their politics reigned in during WWII. JFK? LBJ? I must have missed the legions of well-groomed, well-dressed, highly polite Vietnam War protesters. Not saying none existed, but they weren't prevalent, that's for sure.

Carter didn't acknowledge the war Islamists declared on us back in 1979, but to be fair, it took 22 years before anyone really recognized it for what it is.

So who's left?

1:00 PM  
Blogger Editor said...

So much for some elementary knowledge of US history and politics. This site is a waste of time. So long right wing losers.

1:26 PM  
Blogger eLarson said...

So much for some elementary knowledge of US history and politics.

Oh great one, please enlighten. Oh. I did forget to explicitly mention HST. I don't think there were a great many Republicans out to skin him during WWII. If you have evidence to the contrary, by all means...

This site is a waste of time. So long right wing losers.

C'mon Dittohead... that's what you said the last time you said you were bailing.

So, go ahead you little sockpuppet-wearing twerp: state the name of the president about whose efforts you feel affronted, and let us all in on the war he fought so valiantly.

1:44 PM  
Blogger Greg said...

Editor:

"Anyone really care what a former speech writer opines? "

- No more than I would care what a former B-movie actor has to say. Wait a minute. One of those changed the world!


Editor:

"If others would also suggest Carol present some real news, instead of right-wing propagands, it might actually lead to some intelligent discourse."

- I thought this was a comment section on a political blog. I didn't realize intelligent discourse was a requirement. I kind of thought this was a place where ordinary idiots like me could freely share their opinions, right, wrong, or otherwise.


Editor:

"In a democracy, Bush does not get to hide his failures behind a call of patriotism, nationalisn or the troops who are dying because of his incompetence."

- Sure he does, just like Clinton hid his feloneous actions behind an "It's just about sex." argument. In a democracy you can do whatever the electorate allows you to do.


ELarson:

"state the name of the president about whose efforts you feel affronted,"

- He may have been referring to Clinton's actions in the Balkans.

2:01 PM  
Blogger Editor said...

At least there is an explanation of why the right-wing christians are knuckle draggers willing to follow a former president's idiot son.

A poll conducted by what bills itself as "the world's most visited Christian website" indicates a surprising number of Christians are addicted to pornography.

"The poll results indicate that 50% of all Christian men and 20% of all Christian women are addicted to pornography,"

2:15 PM  
Blogger eLarson said...

He may have been referring to Clinton's actions in the Balkans.

Of course he was. But I wanted the Little Sockpuppet to say it for himself.

Helping the Muslims in Bosnia and Kosovo was a lovely, humanitarian gesture in the modern American left's tradition of using the military only when there are no American interests at stake. As such, I have a hard time squaring it with the term "war" or "war president."

3:02 PM  
Blogger Cavalor Epthith said...

Peace, eLarson, ultimately, is in America's interest. Sir you know far less about foreign policy than I do about bigotry and of bigotry I know nothing!

C.E.

3:07 PM  
Blogger eLarson said...

By your definition, would you say that peace covers Bosnia and Kosovo?

5:20 PM  
Blogger Marshall Art said...

Cav,

I know this much of peace: it usually comes after someone says, "I surrender!" and rarely in other ways. It's a sad reality, but reality nonetheless. And if you know bigotry sucks, you know all you need to know.

editor,

Are you saying that Christians are hypocrites because they are not each a clone of Christ, the only perfect individual? Many cling to their faith whilst struggling with their darker natures. Kind of what it's all about. What's YOUR excuse? BTW, couldn't stay away, could ya?

As to the thread, the opinions of a former speech writer indeed have weight considering his inside knowledge of how a White House admin works. On top of that, his insights are spot on.

6:04 PM  
Blogger eLarson said...

Are you saying that Christians are hypocrites because they are not each a clone of Christ,

He may have been trying to say that. But in fact he could just as easily have said "Hey! Look over there!"

11:26 AM  
Blogger Marshall Art said...

It's often hard to decipher exactly what he's trying to say.

8:44 PM  
Blogger Editor said...

Wow you guys are amazing. Mini-clones of Jesus. Who would Jesus carpet bomb next?

7:33 AM  
Blogger eLarson said...

Art wrote: "Are you saying that Christians are hypocrites because they are not each a clone of Christ..."

The "editor" wrote: "Wow you guys are amazing. Mini-clones of Jesus."

Something seems to be lacking in editor's analysis. But on the plus side, he also got to demonstrate his thorough ignorance of what "carpet bombing" means.

1:38 PM  
Blogger Cliff said...

Editor said...
"Anyone really care what a former speech writer opines?" You cared enough to comment!

11:19 PM  

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