Carol Platt Liebau: Another Steele Must-Read

Tuesday, August 22, 2006

Another Steele Must-Read

Don't miss Shelby Steele's brilliant commentary on the Israel-Hezbollah conflict. Here's just a snippet:

White guilt in the West -- especially in Europe and on the American left -- confuses all this by seeing Islamic extremism as a response to oppression. The West is so terrified of being charged with its old sins of racism, imperialism and colonialism that it makes oppression an automatic prism on the non-Western world, a politeness. But Islamic extremists don't hate the West because they are oppressed by it. They hate it precisely because the end of oppression and colonialism -- not their continuance -- forced the Muslim world to compete with the West. Less oppression, not more, opened this world to the sense of defeat that turned into extremism.

That resentment parallels and reflects the age-old, unreasoning hatred that is anti-Semitism.

25 Comments:

Blogger Editor said...

One seriously has to question this author because all he has done is use his same theory of "White Guilt" and replace Black Americans with Islamic Terrorists.

It is unfortunate when scholars kiss up to power as this author is obviously doing.

12:22 PM  
Blogger eLarson said...

It is unfortunate when scholars kiss up to power as this author is obviously doing.

Editor: would you say that he's getting uppity?

1:18 PM  
Blogger wile e coyote said...

If Steele is "obviously" kissing up to power, then it should be easy for editor to demonstrate how.

Also, the fact that Steele applies his theory of white guilt not only to racism but to islamofascism does not necessarily make this application wrong.

One seriously has to question the bases on which editor makes his assertions. Is he obviously kissing up to (leftist) power?

4:14 PM  
Blogger Editor said...

All one has to do is listen to what terrorists say their fighting cause is, instead of believing the Prez who states they hate our freedom.

4:51 PM  
Blogger wile e coyote said...

Editor,

Citation please for what terrorists say their fighting cause is?

Since terrorists have been attacking US interests for 25-odd years, please include dates for your citations, as well as the specific group (unless you consider the terrorists to be an undifferentiated mass with the same motivation).

5:41 PM  
Blogger Editor said...

Coyote,

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/45323.pdf

6:51 PM  
Blogger Cliff said...

Editor said...
"One seriously has to question this author because all he has done is use his same theory of "White Guilt" and replace Black Americans with Islamic Terrorists."

Ya know, Dr.Shelby Steele
is a very well educated man, I would think long and hard before offering such a thoughtless critique.

8:44 PM  
Blogger Editor said...

Cliff,

But he clearly is not making sense. We know for a fact that terroristic tactics, extremism and radicalization stems from oppression and/or recipients of violence on a monumental scale.

We know what is going on here because American Revolutionaries were called terrorists by King George III.

9:55 PM  
Blogger Editor said...

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10:22 PM  
Blogger Editor said...

Cliff,

By the way, Steele got his phd in English.

10:28 PM  
Blogger wile e coyote said...

Editor,

I looked at your citation, which was an old State Department list of terorrist organizations that failed to mention al Qaeda.

There were no quotes from the terrorists organizations, even though you wrote that "[a]ll one has to do is listen to what terrorists say their fighting cause is, instead of believing the Prez who states they hate our freedom".

Your further write, "We know for a fact that terroristic tactics, extremism and radicalization stems [sic] from oppression and/or recipients of violence on a monumental scale."

I don't know this for a fact. Neither does Steele. Nor have you tried to prove this assertion.

Finally, why and how is what George III called American revolutionairies (citation please) relevant to the present case? Why should the mad king of England in the 18th century be a more reliable source that the current President of the United States?

Where's the beef?

10:42 AM  
Blogger Cliff said...

Editor said...
"Cliff, By the way, Steele got his phd in English."

And your point is...?

1:54 PM  
Blogger Cliff said...

Editor (aka Dittohead), Have you ever heard Dr. Steele speak? If you have,then you should know that it would be quite the intellectual challenge for either of us to debate him in person, would you agree?

2:15 PM  
Blogger Editor said...

Coyote,

Al Qai'da is listed. You might need better reading glasses.

3:07 PM  
Blogger Editor said...

Cliff,

Sure I heard him talk and even debate. He lost the debate handily. I think he is being intellectually lazy trying the fit terrorists into his lazy American Blacks theory.

3:11 PM  
Blogger Cliff said...

You wouldn't know an intelligent debate if Your...Oh, never mind!

3:19 PM  
Blogger Editor said...

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3:46 PM  
Blogger Editor said...

Come on Cliff don't get mad, you just like Shelby blaming blacks for having been white man's slaves.

3:47 PM  
Blogger Cliff said...

Don't you know when you are being made fun of?

8:54 PM  
Blogger Cliff said...

"like Shelby blaming blacks for having been white man's slaves"

Apparently you didn't know that Dr.Shelby Steele is black.

8:58 PM  
Blogger Editor said...

Cliff,

Certainly I do know he is black but don't see how that has anything to do with terrorism.

9:18 PM  
Blogger Cliff said...

And you Probabally never will!

9:34 PM  
Blogger Editor said...

Cliff,

??????????????????? WTF

9:37 PM  
Blogger Marshall Art said...

I know it seems like fun at first, Cliff. But when you try to debate an idiot, eventually you end up frustrated from their inability to make sense. For example, he doesn't understand that Steele's theory doesn't necessarily refer to only white guilt over blacks exclusively, but minorities of all kinds. The whites with guilt, mostly libs, but some cons as well, weigh their words and actions in dealing with any non-white group. They're afraid of offending anyone to the point of crippling themselves. And such deep thinking (only half-way down to the basement, really) is way beyond eddy's capacity to fathom. So give it up and just mock him as I do. Eventually, we'll have an intelligent lib (they do exist you know) who will comment here and pose a real challenge.

10:26 PM  
Blogger Editor said...

Marshall,

3 Billion muslims is not a minority.

10:58 PM  

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