"Slow Joe" Biden Nailed by FNS
Neil Kinnock "devotee" and presumptive presidential aspirant Senator "Slow Joe" Biden was nailed dead to rights by the staff of "Fox News Sunday" (no transcript of this segment is available).
On his FNS appearance last week, Biden claimed that the President and Vice President had stated that Iraq posed an "imminent" threat. Host Chris Wallace challenged the assertion, but Biden insisted.
Apparently, after being unable to locate any evidence that Bush or Cheney had cited an "imminent" threat as a justification for war, FNS contacted Biden -- who supplied tape of the Vice President making the case that Saddam was a threat, but not that he was an imminent threat. Whoops.
Funny how it is with Biden and the statements of other politicians. Either he's trying to coopt them (a la Neil Kinnock) or he's trying to invent them (the nonexistent "imminent threat" claims). If (Heaven forbid) he were to win the presidency, we'd have to be keeping a pretty close eye on those White House speechwriters, wouldn't we?
And this guy has the nerve to insist that the President made deliberately misleading statements? Ah, the irony.
On his FNS appearance last week, Biden claimed that the President and Vice President had stated that Iraq posed an "imminent" threat. Host Chris Wallace challenged the assertion, but Biden insisted.
Apparently, after being unable to locate any evidence that Bush or Cheney had cited an "imminent" threat as a justification for war, FNS contacted Biden -- who supplied tape of the Vice President making the case that Saddam was a threat, but not that he was an imminent threat. Whoops.
Funny how it is with Biden and the statements of other politicians. Either he's trying to coopt them (a la Neil Kinnock) or he's trying to invent them (the nonexistent "imminent threat" claims). If (Heaven forbid) he were to win the presidency, we'd have to be keeping a pretty close eye on those White House speechwriters, wouldn't we?
And this guy has the nerve to insist that the President made deliberately misleading statements? Ah, the irony.
posted by LadybugUSA at 3:15 PM
10 Comments:
"the really sad, dispiriting part of it is that Biden is actually what passes for being responsible on national security, in that party dominated by the ghosts and shades of the late '60s."
The really good news is that he doesn't pass as responsible on national security with people with functioning brains.
I'm actually thankful for Slow Joe. He thinks he's so much smarter than anyone else that it's a comedic treat to watch him talk like he's actually wise.
If Iraq was NOT an "imminent" threat to the US, then, it should be rather obvious that our pre-emptive strike was without basis.
Meanwhile, in Darfur, where genocide is going on daily, we do nothing.
Actually, Biden was right. I was watching a Chris Matthews show about a year ago, and Cheney was asked the same question about hyping Iraq as an "imminent threat." After stating that this phrase was created by his liberal enemies, Matthews showed a clip of Cheney actually saying it. Cheney subsequently mentioned something like, "I must have forgot about that."
The larger question is whether or not the Bush administration used 9/11 and Al Queda as a means for justifying the invasion of Iraq; the answer to this question is undeniably yes, no matter where we come from on the political continuum.
Umm... are you retarted Carol Liebau. Not only did Dick Cheney declare that Iraq posed the nuclear and weapons and would not hesitate to use them:
"Iraq is busy enhancing its capabilities in the field of chemical and biological agents, and they continue to pursue an aggressive nuclear weapons program. These are offensive weapons for the purpose of inflicting death on a massive scale, developed so that Saddam Hussein can hold the threat over the head of any one he chooses. What we must not do in the face of this mortal threat is to give in to wishful thinking or to willful blindness."
- Vice President Dick Cheney, 8/29/02
But President Bush himself also said explicitly that Saddam was an imminent threat:
"Saddam Hussein is a threat to America."
-President Bush, 11/3/02
"I see a significant threat to the security of the United States in Iraq."
-President Bush, 11/1/02
"There is real threat, in my judgment, a real and dangerous threat to American in Iraq in the form of Saddam Hussein."
-President Bush, 10/28/02
"The Iraqi regime is a serious and growing threat to peace."
-President Bush, 10/16/02
"There are many dangers in the world, the threat from Iraq stands alone because it gathers the most serious dangers of our age in one place. Iraq could decide on any given day to provide a biological or chemical weapon to a terrorist group or individual terrorists."
-President Bush, 10/7/02
"The Iraqi regime is a threat of unique urgency."
-President Bush, 10/2/02
"There's a grave threat in Iraq. There just is."
-President Bush, 10/2/02
"This man poses a much graver threat than anybody could have possibly imagined."
-President Bush, 9/26/02
So I don't know what you are talking about. Why are republicans so stupid?
CHT
Of course 9/11 was the reason we went to war. So what. We view the world differently because of 9/11. That is the responsible thing to do. After getting burned, as a child, do you only view the stove that burned you with more respect or all stoves?
We had reason to believe all they said was true. We also had the great assurance that if we were wrong, a good thing would still been done. It turned out (maybe) we were wrong. A good thing has still been done.
http://firedoglake.blogspot.com/2005/11/define-imminent.html
Read it and weep.
One of the ironies is that Biden himself had to apologize for plagiarism a few years ago when he was running for President.
Maybe he said it??? ;-)
The lesson learned from 9/11 is that our nation will never again wait for a gathering threat to become imminent.
The only politician on record stating Iraq was already an imminent threat was liberal Democratic Senator Jay Rockefeller, who rightfully asserted in a speech in October 2002 in which he authorized the use of force in Iraq, "I do believe that Iraq poses an imminent threat, but I also believe that after September 11 that question is increasingly outdated."
DB, instead of just copying and pasting material from a liberal weblog, you should try researching what you post first.
Your post about misleading statements by the administration is rife with examples of statements that have since proved to be CORRECT. One example in specific, is the following (the very final one in your comment):
"and his statement on October 10, 2003, that
Saddam Hussein “had an established relationship with al Qaeda.”"
There is plenty of concrete evidence of a relationship between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda. Saddam hosted members of Al Qaeda in his country both prior to, and post 9/11. This has been conclusively shown. In fact, that means several of your so-calld 'misleading' quotes aren't really misleading at all. They're the truth. You just won't find it on liberal weblogs, because their readership isn't interested in things that contradict their views. Instead, they simply copy and paste statements that have been proven false all over the internet.
You seem ready to believe you have been misled. I won't attempt to contradict you. But I think you're in the dark about who it is who is misleading you.
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