Carol Platt Liebau: Democratic "War Supporters" in Peril?

Monday, October 17, 2005

Democratic "War Supporters" in Peril?

This piece asserts that Democrats who authorized President Bush to go to war in Iraq may confront trouble in their presidential campaigns because of it, given that the Democratic rank-and-file now strongly opposes the war.

Of the senatorial wannabes, including Hillary Clinton, only Russell Feingold voted against the war. Feingold, while ridiculously liberal (and responsible for unconstitutional campaign "reform" legislation), does at least seem to be a person of integrity -- witness his pro-Roberts vote. The rest of them -- from Clinton to Kerry to Biden to Bayh and the rest -- have a problem.

It's not enough for the base for them to play John Kerry's game; namely, supporting the war while opposing the way it's being executed. And if going to war is wrong now, it had to be wrong when they voted for it. But if it was right to go to war -- well, never mind. The lefties won't even entertain that argument. They'd sooner listen to Rush Limbaugh.

The overarching problem for the Dems is that for any Democrat to win, the country must believe that the candidate will be "forward leaning" (that is, agressive) about protecting the country from terrorists. Opposing the war in Iraq, even given what we now know about the imperfect information, sends the opposite message.

And makes the great mass of sensible, clear thinking Americans extremely nervous.

8 Comments:

Blogger Mr. Twister said...

Opposing the war in Iraq, even given what we now know about the imperfect information, sends the opposite message.

And makes the great mass of sensible, clear thinking Americans extremely nervous.


Really? And on what do you base this analysis, Carol? Here are the numbers I have...

According to a recent (October 10th) CBS News poll, "Public opinion is now fairly solidly against the war in Iraq. More than half of Americans – 55% - think the U.S. should have stayed out of Iraq (the highest figure to date), while 41% think taking military action there was the right thing to do."

According to another October poll, this time by Ipsos, found that 50% of the people agree with the statement, "If President Bush did not tell the truth about his reasons for going to war with Iraq, Congress should consider holding him accountable by impeaching him."

It appears that your great mass of sensible, clear thinking Americans are already in agreement with the Democrats on this issue.

8:06 PM  
Blogger cookie jill said...

What makes you think that Hillary is running for President.

Just because Republicans repeat things over and over does not make them the truth.

8:46 PM  
Blogger Pat said...

This is wishful thinking on the part of the Left. Proof? Why didn't votes in favor of the war matter in 2004? Was the Democratic base solidly against the war then? Sure. Was there a candidate who espoused an antiwar position? Yep, Howard Dean. So what happened? Answer: The Left was exposed as powerless within their own party.

Check out Kos' record of supporting candidates. While you're at it, check out the "Dean Dozen".

As for whether Hillary's running in 2008, Cookie Jill, only time will tell. But I'd bet you a Franklin that she is.

8:08 AM  
Blogger HouseOfSin said...

Gang --

The soldiers in Iraq, who enlisted, aren't complaining. The aforementioned poll, meanwhile, is made up of American respondents who have been watching American news (and presumably CBS news). So who are soldiers who are right on the scene to believe -- Dan Rather or their own eyes?

As to the fate of Democrats, it's not necessarily sealed to the loony left. IMHO, Kerry was victorious in the primaries solely because he was seen as "electable." Any similar candidate ought to do well (yes, that means Clinton, and yes she is running).

8:43 AM  
Blogger Roy Lofquist said...

Dear Ms. Liebau,

I totally agree that security is the primary isssue, however I sense another issue that has not been widely discussed. That is the assault on religious expression. I, and a number of my acquaintances, who do not attend church on a regular basis are appalled at judicial overreach in removing traditional expressions of faith from the public square. We know who we are and from whence we come. We are not well disposed towards those who pursue technicalities to change our way of life.

Regards,
Roy

12:51 PM  
Blogger Mr. Twister said...

Pat asked, "Why didn't votes in favor of the war matter in 2004? Was the Democratic base solidly against the war then? " Because the majority of the country supported the war in 2004, and the Democratic base wanted to find someone electable.

Now, of course, the sentiment is turning against the Republicans' war of choice. We already see the neo-cons tunring on the President for this failure. It will be interesting to see how Republicans campaign next fall should this trend continue.

6:13 PM  
Blogger poiball said...

This is the same effort we saw during the Vietnam War, The MSM and the leftist doing all they can to destroy the American Military. The picture shows a scene that is supposed to make the American Military look bad, even through the soldiers on the ground say that the area was definitely not a civilian area. See the comments on
http://warriorsvoice.blogspot.com/
Those Americans who oppose the US effort in Iraq support the enemy by their actions.

7:14 PM  
Blogger Mr. Twister said...

This is the same effort we saw during the Vietnam War, The MSM and the leftist doing all they can to destroy the American Military.

What a load of bunkum.

The MSM and the leftists in this country weren't the ones who put our military in a no-win situation in Iraq to boost their stock of political capital.

The MSM and the leftists aren't the ones who ignored the Powell doctrine to test their new and improved theories of warfare.

The MSM and the leftists aren't the ones blaming the troops everytime something goes wrong.

The MSM and the leftists weren't the ones who politically polarized the country over the Iraq war in the fall of 2002 to influence the mid-term elections.

Nope, all that and more was brought to you by the Bush/Cheney administration. They couldn't have done more the destroy the US military if they had deliberately set out to do so.

9:59 PM  

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