Carol Platt Liebau: <i>More</i> Sauce for the Goose?

Friday, September 30, 2005

More Sauce for the Goose?

Here, yet another story that Democrats may want to take into account before trying to launch a holier-than-thou war against the Republicans.

It's being alleged that Jon Corzine voted in favor of an international treaty that benefited him financially -- without telling other senators that he was one of only 100 investors that would benefit.

So much for the party of "the people" . . . and this isn't even the first whiff of corruption surrounding the Democrats' New Jersey senator.

Of course, Corzine has his defense, just as Bill Frist does. But as we know from watching the Democratic treatment of everything from the fiction CBS AWOL/National Guard story, to Ken Starr, to Clarence Thomas, it should be clear by now: It's not the facts that matter -- it's the seriousness of the charges.


Blogger Mr. Twister said...

Ah, the old everybody does it defense. As you no doubt remember the Democrats tried this in 1994 also. It didn't work then, and I doubt it is going to work now.

The Republican party controls the political procss in this country, and the political process is increasingly viewed as corrupt. The Republican leadership at all national levels, White House, Senate, and the House are being investigated for scandals arising from the arrogant abuse of power, and the perception is that they just don't get it.

Let me give a quick example, here... Tom Delay is indicted, and how does the Republican process choose to restore confidence in their ethical judgment? Do they bring in someone clear of the stench of Delay such as Dreier? No, they promote Roy Blunt who was one of Delay's closest lieutenents. The message is sent loud and clear that Republicans just don't care about integrity.

The arrogance of power is amazing. Despite Rostenkowski and the check-kiting scandal of 1994 giving all y'all the playbook on what not to do, the Republican party keeps on the same-old same-old.

6:58 AM  
Blogger DBK said...

If you read the article you cited you find the follwoing statement:

"Corzine did not benefit from the treaty's tax exemption because he bought his shares before the pact was signed and did not sell them within the prescribed five years.

'Thus, Corzine paid capital gains taxes under traditional residence-based taxation,' spokesman Allyn Brooks-LaSure said in a statement Friday."

Absent anything to contradict that statement, what exactly is the scandal or corruption here? If he received no benefit fromt he vote, if he paid the traditional taxes, what is the problem?

The story is a little fuzzy to me as to what it means with respect to shares he may still own. Perhaps you are an expert in these matters and can explain to me what the issue is.

1:19 PM  
Blogger Draino said...

G.D. don't bother injecting reason into Carol's fantasies. She's immune to it. Republican's can't be bothered with trivial things like reality. They are exempt from reason, just as they are exempt from any legal or political ramifications for their misdeeds. It's democracy in drag, otherwise known as a single party autocracy.

1:49 PM  
Blogger DBK said...

Actually, I noticed that Carol's other remarks about Senator Corzine are of the same quality. It's all some sort of speculative nonsense without any actual evidence of any wrong-doing. That's a little sleazy for my taste, but whatever floats your boat, I suppose. Still, it makes you wonder. If you win an election because of a smear campaign, have you actually put the best candidate in office? Is that how Carol makes her decision about who to vote for, on the basis of who has the least sleazy speculation? Is that her notion of informing the public? I guess, in the end, it is a matter of character. I'd rather know facts than sleazy speculations. I'd rather see what people plan for the state before I pick a governor, not how much mud they are capable of slinging, and such thin mud at that.

It is a matter of applying reason and reasonable arguments, Draino. I've seen the Forrester plans and policy positions and I have seen Corzine's. Corzine's are not only complete, but they can actually work. All of Forrester's opponents in the primaries, his own Republicans, said his property tax plan is unworkable. Forrester had a property tax rebate calculator on his web site for weeks and then removed it because it could not give an answer that worked. All of the leading newspapers in the state have stated that Forrester's plan cannot work. So why isn't Carol talking about that, an actual campaign issue? Why is Carol offering her readers sleazy innuendos, which in fact contradict the information in the story she herself cites?

Frankly, it's kind of creepy to me. It's like a third-rate Donald Segretti thing.

6:19 PM  
Blogger Mr.Atos said...

The Left's Memory Hole is more like a Memory Toilet flushing madly to erradicate all evidence of Democrat malfeasance with the American Press standing on top with a Memory Plunger.

8:30 PM  
Blogger Draino said...

Great comment Mr. Atos, filled with mature potty references and everything. You are so clever! Problem is you're arguing with yourself because no one disagrees with the fact that crooked politicians, democrat or republican should be taken to task and removed from office. The real argument reaches about a seventh grade level so may be beyond your comprehension. It is that there is a double standard and that republicans get away with things that would have taken down a democrat. Do you honestly think that a democratic defense seceratary or attorney general would still have their jobs if they had condoned torture? Give me a break.
And by the way, "eradicate" has one "r".

10:55 AM  

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