Carol Platt Liebau: Katie Couric: Surprisingly Sensible

Friday, July 21, 2006

Katie Couric: Surprisingly Sensible

It's almost impossible for any conservative to be a fan of Katie Couric -- the oh-so-perky committed liberal slated to anchor the "CBS Evening News."

But she did show herself at least to be a person of good sense in her recent comments about whether she'd journey to the Middle East to don a flak jacket and cover the burgeoning war. "I think the situation there is so dangerous, and as a single parent with two children, that's something I won't be doing," Couric said.

No doubt the same feminists who nipped at the heels of Elizabeth Vargas when she stepped down as ABC anchor will bay at the moon once more. After all, women must feel no special obligation either to bear or raise children in order to be truly "liberated."

But the fact is that Couric is exactly right. Her husband is dead, and if she's killed covering the war for CBS, her children will be orphans -- and no responsible parent could ever deliberately court that risk.

In an era when, frankly, any number of correspondents can report from a war zone as ably as an anchorman him (or her) self -- and the audience knows it -- it's a bit silly anyway to cherish the notion that the news is somehow more authentic or genuine simply because one television reporter is covering it, rather than another.

And like it or not, the feminists are going to have to come to grips with the fact that Couric wasn't chosen to anchor the CBS news because she's a heck of a war reporter. It's because she's a celebrity, with enormous appeal to women -- appeal that won't be diminished one bit because she understands the special responsibility that comes with being a mother.


Blogger Dittohead said...

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10:09 AM  
Blogger Dittohead said...


Using the same logic it would also be sensible that all parents who happen to be in the service, don't have to go to war. They could fulfill their duty like Bush, safely state side. And all innocent mother's with children should be evacuated from war zones.

But we know what is going on here, a double standard, the wealthy shouldn't venture into harms way. It is only for the low income grunts to die for the have-mores financial interests.

Reporting safely from an air-conditioned studio will not give Katie a reality based foundation, needed to be a good anchor. Especially during war time. It is one thing to read and hear about that goodness and another to be on the ground in a war zone.

Unfortunately CBS didn't consider this before. Celebrity news is fake news. I will not waste my time watching her perky performance.

10:16 AM  
Blogger COPioneer said...

Well, when the time comes for us all to have to fight because the leftards have given up all our freedom, then I'll be fighting, even as dhead is hiding his head in a cheetos bag.

10:44 AM  
Blogger Editor said...

I'm sorry this is off topic but it is breaking news. For some reason there is not a recent thread on the Iraq war, where I could post this.

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Police said, “U.S. troops killed two women and a three-year-old girl during a raid.”

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The U.S. ambassador has warned that a greater threat may be the mounting sectarian violence between Sunnis and Shi'ites.

U.S., Iraqi and international leaders have sounded alarms this week as new data showed tens of thousands of people have fled their homes in fear of death squads and that some 6,000 civilians may have been killed in just two months.

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The sources said that forces at the CIA have been lobbying for the new NIE for about six months. Not only is one overdue, but there's also a fear that if the Democrats win control of at least one chamber of Congress this November, the agency is going to get hammered for not having produced an NIE for so long.

10:47 AM  
Blogger amber said...

DH, I think you need a little background on military policy regarding single parents and families where both parents are in the military. When either of those situations arises, with the first pregancy, you are required to sign a piece of paper that states who will care for your children if you are deployed. If you can not find anyone suitable, you can ask to be discharged and they will grant it to you. The military understands that our lives and priorities change and we may or may not have thought of others who might come along. When I got pregnant, I had a meeting with my commander and told him I would sign the paper when my daughter was a year old. I told him I wanted to be able to care for her for at least the 1st year of life, but after that I would go if I was called. When I got married and pregnant again, I was again given a choice. At that time I chose to leave the military.

I disagree with Katie about the fear of death, but she is not a Christian and we do not share the same beliefs. The reason I do not go fight is not because I do not want my children to be without their parents, that could happen weather I was in the military or not. The reason I do not is because they are going through enoughas it is without me leaving them for a year and a half too. They miss their dad, they do not need to miss their mom too.

10:55 AM  
Blogger Dittohead said...

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11:08 AM  
Blogger Dittohead said...

As I said, there are double standards that make those wealthy immune from the wars they advocate.

Ivy Leaguers were evacuated first from Lebanon by private security firms, while students from other schools had to wait days for the United States Embassy to make arrangements, according to ABC News.

"When fighting broke out in Lebanon, college students studying there for the summer anxiously awaited their turn to evacuate," reports ABC's The Blotter. "As it turns out, if you were an Ivy League student in Beirut, your turn came first."

11:36 AM  
Blogger COPioneer said...

Ivy Leaguers - Rich liberal cry babies. That's the majority, there are exceptions, Carol, Laura...etc.

11:53 AM  
Blogger Dittohead said...


When did Carol and Laura serve? They didn't, they work out of their air-conditioned plush offices, telling everyone to serve for them. While they try to elect leaders who will cut their taxes. Typical Ivy Leaguers like Bush, many in the top levels of his administration and the drum beating manicured neocons, all chickenhaws.

12:20 PM  
Blogger Cavalor Epthith said...

In life like in politics there are chickens and pigs. At breakfast on the farm, the chicken is merely associated with the meal offering eggs with no real loss. However, the pig becoming the family's bacon is fully committed to the farm's daily success.

This brings me to Amber's statement about Ms Couric "not being a Christian". Does this mean that wishing to be the head of your profession makes you less spiritual. It is such an offhanded comment it left me rather speechless.

Hopefully, the folly of this war in Iraq will be seen soon and your husband along with all the rest of America's battered armed forces can return to their shores where they belong.

1:06 PM  
Blogger eLarson said...


Our resident font of talking points unleashing the devastating "air conditioned office".

Dittohead - what unit did you serve in?

1:19 PM  
Blogger Dittohead said...


If I am the highest ranking officier on this site. Do you agree that I win all arguments concerning matters of the military, war and foreign policy?

1:51 PM  
Blogger The Flomblog said...

<-- E4

2:10 PM  
Blogger eLarson said...

Ditto, ditto, ditto. You didn't answer my question.

I'll ask again: what unit did you serve with?

Do you agree that I win all arguments concerning matters of the military, war and foreign policy?
And no, I wouldn't agree that it would be so. And neither would you.

For instance Donald Rumsfeld served. I don't think you automagically agree with him.

4:04 PM  
Blogger Dittohead said...


You answered your own question. It doesn't matter. So why are you asking me the question, especially when you didn't serve?

5:47 PM  
Blogger eLarson said...

Odd that you should say that. If anything it sounds like you are the one advocating for a government of and by those with military experience.

You did kick off this particular round of sillyness with "When did Carol and Laura serve? They didn't, they work out of their air-conditioned plush offices, telling everyone to serve for them."

"Especially when you didn't serve?"
And you know this... how?

6:25 PM  
Blogger Dittohead said...


Seems silly to me. I was responding to Copineer's statement about Ivy League liberal cry babies.

7:46 PM  
Blogger amber said...

NO, Ditto, I was not talking about materninty leave. The military grants early discharge for those people who find themselves in a situation where there is no one to care for their child. The maternity leave policy for the military is 3 months for normal duty and 6 months to pass your physical fitness test. I am one of those people, I would know, I have been through it. If you refuse to sign the paper they discharge you, simple as that. If you are a man in the military and your wife dies and you have children, you are offered a chance to be discharged. It is not uncommon for the military to grant discharges, it is actually very common and maddenning in some cases. I have seen time and again a soldier quitting once they get their degree all payed for and the commander signing off on their discharge because the commander does not want a soldier under his command who does not want to be there.

Cavalor, I was not saying that she is less spiritual because of her career goal. She has made it quite clear that she is not a Christian, she does not hide that, she will tell you openly if you go and ask her. For me being a Christian takes all fear of death away. That is what I was saying. Only God gets to decide if I live or die and if I am to die, then my occupation will not be able to stop or accelerate that. That is my belief. Katie does not believe in God, therefor she would not have that same feeling. Katie thinks staying in the US will save her from dying before her children are grown. If Katie had not opennly denouced Christianity, then no matter her political position I would notmake that assumption, but she claims she is not, so I believe her. I do not know what she believes beyond that, I do not know if she is agnostic or athiest, all I know is she says herself that she isnot Christian.

8:46 PM  
Blogger Dittohead said...


I don't really know what your problem is. I wrote using Carol's logic "all parents don't have to go to war and all mothers with children should be removed from the war zone".

This had nothing to do with military policy. Katie Couric isn't even in the militray. It has to do with the moral principle Carol was arguing. I expanded it slightly because previously she argued about the sanctity of marriage being attacked by gays and she thought to raise a healthy child required a father and a mother. If I recall correctly in that thread you stated that you noticed your children were doing better being married and their having a father.

You had an option of maternity leave or discharge under the military's hardship and dependency polices. Even with those polices a member does not has an absolute right for discharge. The CO or SPCMCA reviews the application in light of readiness, rank, command, special training and skills, OBLISERV,etc.

To be very honest, I know couples with children, high rank and special skills who had to go to war. And I do want to emphasis, that they had special skills that the military decided their loss would affect readiness and could not be replaced.

3:24 AM  
Blogger Cavalor Epthith said...

Hello again Amber,

After much tossing and turning and the ire of my wife, I awoke early this morn and decided to check som facts, a thing those in my profession HAVE to do and casual readers of blogs that give them a warm fuzzy do not. I have found no evidence through grumbles of sources at Black Rock, or within the trust half of what you see realm of the Internet to give the impression that Ms. Couric who was raised in the Episcopal Church and her mother was Jewish. All my sources point to Katie being a somewhat observant Jew. Yes, still not a Christian but not person foolish enough to turn their back on some force in Nature that created a sentient being as annoying as humans.

I fear you have been side tracked by some fundie site dedicated to filling your head with sawdust so that when their day of "reckoning" comes they can set your blond locks ablaze and march you off to destruction.

Because you feel some tribal urge to feel special I would suggest you go back and actually read the entire Bible and then meet with one or two people who are experts at interpreting the work. And no, I do not mean someone who makes their living by herding sheep every Sunday, I mean real biblical scholars. If you want to know the Truth, get away from the propaganda, false patriotism and pap being spewed by the media and think for yourself. Sit down and really ask yourself the tough questions like "Why are we fighting this war in Iraq?" "Who are our real enemies?" "Why are our leaders trying to make us afraid?" "Who profits from immigrant labor?" "Who profits from quiet racism?"

Do these things and you will find yourself in a much better place than the fearful one you currently occupy.

"Qu'ul cuda pradex nihil!"

Cavalor Epthith, Esq.
The Dis Brimstone-Daily Pitchfork
"Wrap your fish in Dis!"

4:35 AM  
Blogger amber said...

Cav, I have not done any study on Katie and her faith. I saw her say it on her morning show a few years ago. I would not trust what any other site said about her, or anyone's faith for that matter. As for studying the Bible, I am not sure what you mean. I know my Bible fairly well and I never take for granted what a pastor or any other person says is in the Bible. I read for myself and do my own study. Because you accused me of not reading the Bible, I actally have, 3 times (differant translations even) and I continue to read it almost every day. That is what we are told to do. I see nothing about "God being in control of if we live or die" that is in conflict with the Bible. I am also not condemming her because she does not share my belief system, I am just stating that we have both made the same decision, but based on totally differant criteria. Obviously I would prefer my criteria to hers, because I chose it. I do not like Katie, just for full disclosers sake. I agree with Ann Coulter when she said she is Hitler's wife, what was her name? The pretty blond, blond lady? OH well, I can not remember her name. Katie has said some extremely anit-Christian things on the air, but because she is soooooo cute people either do not realize what she said or do not take it as that harsh of a statement.

Ditto, I take no issue with your post, I did and do think you needed a little more background because of what you posted. Y made it appear that people do not have a choice, at least when I read what you wrote that was how I took it. I was not upset, I do not think a lot of people understand military policy, even those who are in. I was fortunate to have a good commander who explained that aspect of their policy very well. Some people may "fake" that there is no one to care for their child, but the military does not want to create orphans, that is why they have that policy. I have no idea why your friends still had to serve when their children did not have a caretaker, I find that very hard to believe. It is the same as their policy about only children being drafted, if you refuse, they will not take you. My uncle served in Viet Nam and he was the only male, he was drafted, but he could have claimed "hardship" and they would not have taken him.

6:19 AM  
Blogger Dittohead said...

Katie was misquoted. I wonder how Carol can restate this. Katie is an idiot and not a good mother?

Access Hollywood, meanwhile, has corrected the quote and runs this statement:

"The comments from Katie Couric that earlier ran on were from a previous interview on May 30th in regards to whether or not she would go to Iraq in light of injured CBS News correspondent Kimberly Dozier. The Web site story has since been clarified and includes more recent comments that were given by Couric in regards to the current Middle East crises at the CBS TCAs (Television Critics Association). "Access Hollywood" NEVER aired this story and regrets that the previous Web site story was misleading."

9:25 PM  
Blogger eLarson said...

Incidentally, if the Laura that COPioneer referenced was Laura Ingraham, she served in the executive branch (as a speechwriter in the final two years of the Reagan Administration at the White House, the Department of Transportation and the Department of Education); and the Judicial Branch, as a law clerk to Justice Thomas as well as for Ralph K. Winter on the Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit.

(All offices in DC are, as far as I can tell, air conditioned. Your experiences may vary.)

5:39 PM  

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