Carol Platt Liebau: Dishing, But Not Taking

Saturday, November 19, 2005

Dishing, But Not Taking

Having lied for months, if not years, about the President and the way the war in Iraq began, Democrats are now outraged -- outraged! -- that the Republicans actually forced them to do what elected representatives are supposed to do, i.e. vote on whether the USA should withdraw from Iraq. After all, it's so much easier to complain about the war than actually having to take a position on it -- especially when the whole country might be watching.

After months of calling the President a liar, Democrats seem inordinately sensitive to charges that they are the forces of retreat -- which they are today, just as many of them were in Vietnam.

Here is an excerpt from the linked AP piece, showing the House Dems at their tolerant best:

Democrats booed and shouted her down - causing the House to come to a standstill.

Rep. Harold Ford, D-Tenn., charged across the chamber's center aisle screaming that it was an uncalled for personal attack. "You guys are pathetic. Pathetic," yelled Rep. Marty Meehan, D-Mass.

Wow. That's a lot of dignity emanating from the left. Best of all is John Kerry, who ponderously intoned, "I won't stand for the swift-boating of Jack Murtha." Well, Senator Kerry, last I checked, you hadn't actually ever responded to the real questions about your war record the Swift Boat vets raised, including your Christmas in Cambodia fable.

Gotta love the left -- good at dishing it, not so good at taking it. Funny how much less they like the "personal attacks" when they're directed at them, rather than at President Bush.


Anonymous alvah c halle said...

Simply stunning, the vacuous arrogance of the Democratic Party.
WWIII is just around the corner.
And 'Leaders' of a party are acting like first graders who had their cookies and milk yanked from them for 'misunderstood' bad behavior.
Absolutely defined idiots.

12:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, let's follow the Republican leadership on war issues! Because they have so much credibility, ie

Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert - avoided the draft, did not serve.
Former House Majority Leader Dick Armey - avoided the draft, did not serve.
House Majority Leader Tom Delay - avoided the draft, did not serve (1). "So many minority youths had volunteered ... that there was literally no room for patriotic folks like himself."
House Majority Whip Roy Blunt - did not serve
Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist - did not serve. (An impressive medical resume, but not such a friend to cats in Boston.)
Majority Whip Mitch McConnell, R-KY - did not serve (1)
Rick Santorum, R-PA, third ranking Republican in the Senate - did not serve. (1)
Former Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott - avoided the draft, did not serve.
Secretary of Defense Don Rumsfeld - served in the U.S. Navy (1954-57) as an aviator and flight instructor. (1) Served as President Reagan's Special Envoy to the Middle East and met with Saddam Hussein twice in 1983 and 1984.
GW Bush - decided that a six-year Nat'l Guard commitment really means four years. Still says that he's "been to war.
VP Cheney - several deferments ( the last by marriage (in his own words, "had other priorities than military service") (1)
Fmr Att'y Gen. John Ashcroft - did not serve (1, 2); received seven deferment to teach business ed at SW Missouri State
Karl Rove - avoided the draft, did not serve (1), too busy being a Republican.

2:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What you fail to mention is that the broad from Ohio broke House rules by personally attacking another member...or is that fact irrelevant? THEN she decided to cut and run from her statement, as she lacked character, as well as the courage of her convictions.
And they did not vote on Murtha's resolution (perhaps they, like you lacked the reading comprehension skills to understand it)...they voted on a one sentence, unconditional resolution presented by a republican who voted his own measure down.
''as immediate as practiacable' is NOT immediate unconditional.

2:28 PM  
Anonymous LQ said...

I respect John Murtha, for his service in the Marines and in Congress, but he is wrong on this issue.

During last night’s debate, a member of my party implied that Murtha was a coward. That remark was personal, shameful and also wrong.

Let’s stay on the high road and not sink to the low levels of the left.

2:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Having lied for months, if not years, about the President and the way the war in Iraq began...

Oh, thats right, I forgot, it was the democrats who lied about WMD, it was the democrats who lied about ties to 9/11, and now it's the democrats who label as traitor anyone brazen enough to question el presidente.

The democrats defended a war hero against another Rovian slime job. Period.

3:01 PM  
Blogger Progressive Democrat said...

1. You are a dishonest woman.
You mention the democratic response to an event most republicans denounced as well, while not providing the account of the event.
You say that the Republicans gave the democrats what they wanted. There is no sense in which this is true. This is not something about which reasonable honest people can disagree. Murtha's resolution called for withdrawal at the earliest practicable date. The GOP resolution calle for immediate withdrawal. Most democrats and liberal would say something here about how you need to learn to read. I think that confuses the issue. You aren't stupid, you are just evil.

3:04 PM  
Blogger Progressive Democrat said...

just to make sure my bases are covered, I know that you didnt explicitly say that republicans gave democrats what they wanted. It is clearly implicit in your remarks.

Doesn't it bother you to do this with your life? Doesn't it bother you to just repeat talking points? I am not being political here. I am really astounded at your blog and the complete lack of thought that it shows. This doesn't just happen on republican blogs, Eschaton shows the same emptiness. I just can't understand spending time repeating what party officials say. They have people on the payroll who say it better than you, why not find something more constructive to do with your time, like sculpt or paint or volunteer at a soup kitchen. Something.

3:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Carol Platt Liebau is an attorney, political analyst and commentator says her bio. That's all we need is a ambulance chasing, loudmouth commentating wing nut who has poop for brains tell us about the democrats being outraged. Did you catch the right wing whack skank has absolutely no facts but just bullshit in her "post"

3:22 PM  
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3:32 PM  
Blogger Mr. Twister said...

Just in case anyone missed the fireworks, here is what happened yesterday.

Yesterday, a Republican Congressman, Duncan Hunter, put forward a resolution calling for an "immediate" withdrawal of all US troops from Iraq.

The Republican leadership fought to suspend normal House rules to bring forward Rep. Hunter's resolution to the floor for a vote. Despite acrimonious debate and unanimous opposition from the Democrats, the Republican leadership won the fight and the resolution came forward to the floor of the House.

Then a miraculous thing occurred. In speech after speech from the House floor, the Democrats reminded thier Republican colleagues how flawed the resolution was. If approved, the Republican cut-and-run plan would endanger the lives of our troops and threaten US National interests.

In the end, after voting for the cut-and-run resolution, Republicans joined with the Democrats to vote against their own Republican Cut-and-Run resolution, and it was defeated.

The Republicans voted for cut and run before they voted against it.

4:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Carol, how about getting all your Repub goonies to voice their vote today about going to war if they knew what we know NOW and are finding out that the Bush Regime knew all along.

Would they vote to invade with

no WMDs
no links to 911
no links to Al Qaeda
no plan

Thousands of Americans, tens of thousands of Iraqis


For what.



One word says it all...


Pull your head out of the "rights" ass and have a look with your own eyes, lacky.

7:42 PM  
Blogger WHT said...

I heard the doorbell this morning, and went to answer the door. I didn't see anything but a brown paper bag wrapped around a flaming piece of Schmidt.

8:02 PM  
Blogger David said...

It's amusing, in a rather macabre way, to watch the Democrats hold true to their nature and attempt to spend other people's political capital...

11:46 PM  
Anonymous Greg said...


Finally, the Republicans - at least in the house - call ed the Democrats' bluff and forced a vote!

And, man, don't the Democrats HATE it! And I LOVE it!

You know it was an effective move by the way the moonbats are howling. Just look at the personal attacks on Carol in this thread.

Of course, none of them have the courage to identify themselves with their invective - unless they all have the same name, Anonymous!

And, hey, what about that Anonymous guy/gal using that much of Carol's bandwith to post a dissertation he heisted from someone else.

Yep, the Republican called a spade a spade. They openly called the Democrats the Party of Retreat. Now the Democrats are retreating from their policy of retreat.

In all fairness though, I have to say that the comment - by whom else, Anonymous - that Bush will naturally claim that he didn't mislead the Democrats, they simply "misfollowed" was a great comment! That one is a keeper!

5:23 PM  
Blogger eLarson said...

You know the dog that's been hit, because that's the one that barks the loudest.

Murtha is no coward. Merely wrong. And perhaps trying to distract from a potential ethics investigation:

5:54 AM  

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